Need Assistance

[Arcane]

Aracane here. i need a working version of ssssssssssoftIce, and a full copy of Hiew. if you can help it will be greatly appreciated. i maybe able to help you someday. thanks.

[Metgod]

Sure... I can arrange that, though I'd need some info from you:

1. Your credit card number.
2. Your home address.

I'll then order the software and send it your way!

Seriously, come on .... this isn't a pirating group.

If you want a copy of software that is commercial (or even just shareware), go to a pirating place.

[Arcane]

Hmmm.... let me see. oh tjats right i dont have a credit card and if ya think i would just hand it over. i already thought of buying it but why when i could probaly get for free? how about you just get me some internet sites that provide what i need. not trying to be an ass but come on "give me your credit card #" whoa and i thought hackers went by a code.hmmm.... "For in the pursuit  of knowledge I shall walk thru the Chaos of this world!" thanks for any help i can get !

[Metgod]

Why do you think I said "Seriously, come on .... this isn't a pirating group" after ?

It was SARCASM and it basically meant we aren't doing illegal things for you.

Find it yourself.

(And I really am kicking myself for stopping the hold on sarcasm. I knew some people took offense so I tried to lower it, but never did I imagine that someone would take it like this.)

[Arcane]

I just merley asked if you could help me out. but since you want to be an ass about it thanks. so piracy, hmm but yet we are hackers so now i see. you have lost all sight of what you never where. Some forum?

[Metgod]

Thievery isn't hacking.

It might happen that some do have illegal software, but that doesn't mean it's what it's _about_.

I wasn't being an ass; I was making a point through something I always use: sarcasm. If I was being an ass you'd know it. It would be a direct attack on your intelligence or something equally as stupid (I try not to judge other people's intelligence like that). But I even said "seriously.. come on.. etc" after the fact to point out what I meant.

Somehow I think if I simply said "We don't do piracy here" this forum would still be bad.

The thing is, no place that has ever helped the government would just offer software to any one who comes along and asks for it.

You want it in more polite terms ? Okay.. We don't do piracy here because it's illegal.

There, now you have your answer. Btw, if you really want these programs, they aren't too hard to get. I might have even had a copy ages ago when I used to do assembly on DOS. But since my programming is restricted to Unix now, I have no use for these programs.

[Tazinator]

Im trying to figure out why most people make the connection between hacking and piracy. Im starting to believe its that friggin MTV show "True Life: Im A Hacker" where the kid was boasting his 31337 $k1llz by playing a copy of Star Wars Episode 1 when it was still in theaters.

Okay people who dont know, im going to clarify for you now.

Hackers and Pirates are NOT one in the same! While each shares a little of the others skill set and you can occasionally find someone who is both, they are not the same skillsets and cant be generalized together.

Example: Just because you learned how to use CloneDVD and AnyDVD to make copies of the crap you rent at Blockbuster, doesnt instantly qualify you to be an expert in breaking into a BSD server somewhere. Same thing can be said if you made a copy of your buddy's new Photoshop CD and downloaded a crack or keygen off Astalavista, doesnt mean you can now program in C.

Biggest difference; anyone can be a pirate, all it takes is a CD burner and some blank media, not just anyone can be a hacker, it takes years of learning and patience with a die hard attitude.

[wilnix]

yeah, but making regkeys is fun, and so is cracking PRCs for treo 650s....not that i would know anything about that....or IDA Pro for that matter....

I should 'hypothetically' thank someone....


Wilnix

[Tazinator]

Im sure that someone "hypothetically" welcomes you.

[Metgod]

I just formatted my only win box (rest are linux based) and I saw IDA in a backup somewhere ... and here I am reading about it today. How ironic!

(okay, I really need to go to bed.. getting senile or something here!)