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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2005, 06:13:19 PM »
I believe that YellowDog Linux was developed for the mac. I think you can find it at distrowatch.org (I think that's the right address anyway). There may be some others as well.
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2005, 02:23:28 PM »
Yup, YellowDog. Never tried it but heard good things about it. I believe NetBSD has a PowerPC kernel as well, not 100% sure tho.

http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
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http://www.yellowdoglinux.org/ (for support)
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2005, 05:37:29 PM »
Do any of them one up Mac OS, or are they basically same as on a PC?  I don't really know what the point of putting Linux on a Mac would be.  OSX kicks butt I've heard.  There's just something not right about putting a free OS on a $3000 computer...
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2005, 10:29:08 PM »
Its all a matter of preference. Some people like the look of Mac's and dont like OS X but are used to Linux. Honestly I think OS X is just fine and in many ways a lot better than Linux when it comes to what OS for a Mac. Granted ive not used Yellow Dog, but I know people who do and mostly they have it to play with and learn Linux, not to replace OS X. You gotta keep in mind that OS X is built off BSD so its still BSD under the hood. You can still do 99% of things you could with BSD in OS X via the "Terminal". Hell, for the server, a majority of configuration is command line only, not a whole lot through the GUI. At the seminars on hacking ive spoken at, a couple of times there were some OS X machines and guys running exploits off them. Hell at DC last year we had a girl running a Mac doing a good amount of Offensive work on the team I was on.
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2005, 11:52:04 PM »
Yeah the local LUG here has a couple of guys running OSX laptops and they manage to get everything working fine on there. Although they definately have a lot of experience with Linux in general and so aren't very daunted by potential problems....
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2005, 07:35:49 AM »
I finally scraped up enough cash to buy a mac.  It burned a $700 hole in my pocket, but I love it!  It's a mac mini g4 with OSX and it rocks my socks off!  And then on again!

However, everyone says Macs are way more stable than PCs (especially windows), but I can now say, with confidence, that it's a load of crap.  It's already locked up on me like three times this week and it's got a gig of RAM!  I think Win XP (quit booing) has come a long way since the days of Win98 and (*shiver*) ME.

I can safely say that Windows kicks butt for gaming.  Take a look at the Xbox (OS modeled after windows), and even desktops.  Windows PC's kill Macs (and Linux and Unix) for gaming.

Though nothing can match OSX's Unix core (except for Unix...and Linux...).  You can pull up bash in the middle of ripping CD's with iTunes.

That's my two-cents.  A little off topic though.
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2005, 09:49:56 PM »
Gaming-wise its easier to write code for Winblows. With *nix based systems its a bit harder as you never know what Window manager people may be using and 3d drivers can sometimes be a bitch with some cards, plus there are a ton of variants of those drivers. I can speak first hand about the 3d drivers. I had SuSE on a Dell Inspiron with a GeForce Go 5200 and a Thinkpad with the same card. The dell would go into cardiac arrest if I started X with 3d enabled, the Thinkpad works like a champ. Same card, same driver, same OS, etc. Its just much more headache intensive to build a game for *nix. Although you see more and more ported over now that Linux and Mac's have started gaining popularity due to Redmond's lapse in security and support for older PC's.
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2005, 07:07:47 AM »
That's true, but shouldn't gaming be a ton easier on mac's?  You can't really even get "custom made mac's."  They should be simple to write for because they have that unix core but standardized hardware.  Every mini will have a radeon 9200 and the same sound card.
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2005, 08:02:54 AM »
I believe its aspects of the OS that make it more difficult. I cant honestly say nor do I want to as im not a developer. Only saying what ive been told by other developers ;)
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2005, 03:41:00 AM »
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2005, 11:51:15 AM »
Hey, shutup wilnix!  It's people like you that make me jealous of you... ;)
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2005, 02:55:08 PM »
bastard  >:(
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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2005, 05:32:52 AM »
In that case, be jealous of Uneek too. He has the exact same thing!

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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2005, 10:43:16 AM »
Yeah yeah ... of course he does.. since he works WITH you...


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Re:Mac OSX
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2005, 12:40:39 AM »
Oh Yeah.....well......ummm.....

crap!

I shall have a dual G5 for my own home use soon. My day will come!

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